Snackers vs Jokers

It doesn't really matter who you went to actually, you came into our chat and asked that. I was just wondering since you had stated that you'd wish he had contacted you guys about that. But either way, I'm glad that this was settled and we're all set for Saturday .~

But I did want to ask, what exactly do you mean by cake jump? Did you mean no arealcake jump or just ANY at all? Even if it's just putting the cake down and using it as a step?

Areal cake jump is not a cake jump. You wanna do a usual cake jump in our future match? Please , be my guest. But if you want to throw a cake and then jump on it and after that jump to desired location (that's what I call areal cake jump), please don't do that.

owlka! so you want to ban an areal cake just for the match but regular cake jumps are fine? why may i ask ?

I have not agreed to banning cake jumps 0-0 I don't really understand why you don't want to them. Are you fine with the normal cake jumps and not arials?

he just said he's fine with normal cake jumps(lay cake on ground, then jump on it) but not tossing cakes and jumping on them while they are airborn.

Only thing with that is it's very hard to enforce. It might be easier to just allow them to save any drama afterwards...I dunno if you guys remember the Undead Vs Broc match, there was a huge issue afterwards with wall jumps. I'm not saying we would cheat, but if one of us is believed to have been cheating, it will cause a lot of arguments :/

it wouldn't really be hard to enforce. there are some jumps where the ONLY way to get in without a warrior dash is to jump on flying cake.

We're not talking about jumping up walls and stuff. Or easy jumps. We're talking about things like in candy mountain when you jump as a villager on cake you threw and then go into the castle as opposed to building the springboard and using that to cross or warrior dashing. We're NOT talking about using cake at the top of cococliffs, where the cake just sits on the ground to help the jump that normally needs a ladder.

Y'know I will admit it's probably a stupid rule because I bet lots of you can't even pull it off. Otherwise you'd understand better what we're talking about.

Well, the fact that it's largely hit and miss, and there's only a few uses for it (I mean, we're starting on GG, the chances of us getting to Candy Mountain or Hot Sauce, which are the only two maps where I can think of it being useful, are slim), I personally think allowing ACJs isn't game breaking, and the less rules the better.

But that's just my opinion :/ It's up to you fine leaders to sort it out.

there;s a couple on GG, BF, CC, DF, SC, and TP as well...

But I guess if you don't know about them then hopefully no one in your clan will use them. But the thing I don't understand is if you don't know of them and most of you can't do them, then why not make it a rule for our match...

We're not going to accuse you of ACJ if you do a normal jump. so this rule wouldn't cause any drama. The only drama I'm seeing is for some reason many people in your clan seem to have problems with it even tho they won't do it..

Eh, I just think the less rules, the better. Less complicated. And just because I'm ignorant of cake jumps, it doesn't mean the rest of our clan is - I'm certainly not the best player, and I prefer to play defence anyway, so I haven't tried many ACJs. But that's just me.

yes I'm aware there are people in yoru clan that can do it, I'm pretty sure thats why Owlka asked to include it in the rules. i'm sure the people who can do it also know how to not do it, it shouldn't really make anything more complicated.

Going back a bit...

neoitvaluocsol wrote:

But I guess if you don't know about them then hopefully no one in your clan will use them. But the thing I don't understand is if you don't know of them and most of you can't do them, then why not make it a rule for our match...

I think most people know how to do a cakejump, and there are times when it is oppertune to attempt to cakejump - whether or not it's successful or not is another question. Because it's quite hit and miss with most people, I personally don't see it as a gamebreaking glitch, or a problem in most matches. I personally don't know all the useful cakejumps in the game, but as it seems like your clan does, wouldn't it be beneficial to allow cake jumps? I doubt any match will be won by a single cakejump anyway.

I'm just worried that this last-minute confusion to the rules might lead to misunderstanding during the game. It seems from your posts that the Jokers know a lot about cakejumping, so why push to make another restriction? I just think it's an uneccessary rule :/

Ahh. Im not in this match, but after reading this I still don't understand why ACJ's arent allowed? o.o

OK, Beebles, you are an awesome player and I wuv you for that Well, not just that, of course

Now, can we discuss about this before the match? Because some ACJs can cause drama (I suppose..?), but others are simple and are used every day. I say we discuss what jumps are fine, and which ones are not (though I see all of them to be fine). ACJs are a skill, and you need to learn how do do them. You can't really ban a skill, its like banning ganking! So, I say we discuss deep into this, and have a vote from every single player in the game.. or simply democracy. If leaders wish not to do a vote, then so be it, they will decide wether ACJs are allowed.
ACJs are not a huge, mind blowing thing, so please, both Jokers and Snackers, lets stop with the arguing. We will see tomorrow what to do, and please state reasons to why not to. I will respect everyone's opinions, but I may stick to allowing ACJs.
Thank you

bblowup wrote:

Going back a bit...

neoitvaluocsol wrote:

But I guess if you don't know about them then hopefully no one in your clan will use them. But the thing I don't understand is if you don't know of them and most of you can't do them, then why not make it a rule for our match...

I think most people know how to do a cakejump, and there are times when it is oppertune to attempt to cakejump - whether or not it's successful or not is another question. Because it's quite hit and miss with most people, I personally don't see it as a gamebreaking glitch, or a problem in most matches. I personally don't know all the useful cakejumps in the game, but as it seems like your clan does, wouldn't it be beneficial to allow cake jumps? I doubt any match will be won by a single cakejump anyway.

I'm just worried that this last-minute confusion to the rules might lead to misunderstanding during the game. It seems from your posts that the Jokers know a lot about cakejumping, so why push to make another restriction? I just think it's an uneccessary rule :/

Well, doubt again....it's not really impossible to win a single match having someone do the "ACJ" for example: *depends on the map/s* (you can either have a worker, villager or other classes rushing in the beginning with a group of priests+mages and while the rest back you up or heal you)

Just like "BF" you can have a group rushing the bottom to steal the princess with a single cake jump.....

more rules=lame game, sorry owlka I was always and still am pro dash grab, so a rule for ACJ's seems weird to me...

If anything we should set up a match in the future with only classic classes....NO MAGIC HAT..
Oh, that would be fun just like the good ol days...

The thing is you're all about avoiding drama, I'm pretty sure a rule liek this wouldn't cause any... however should we agree to not have the rule and then you guys use this ACJ on us and actually win a game I potentially see this causing way more drama than if we avoided it all together- because we asked to have it banned. I don't see why if you don't find this to be easy to do, and if you don't find it helpful, why you can't just agree to not have it. Infact the very fact that it seems soooo important to not have it banned that you will keep replying to this very thread multiple times suggests that the ACJ may possibly be an integral part of your strategy and that you're afraid to give it up. Otherwise there should be no problem to give up something you plan to not use.

I think the reason OWLKA wanted it banned was cause people werecomplaining about it in other matches we were in. But I really can'tspeak for Owlka, and i'm not even going ot be in tomorrows match. I'msure he has a good reason, and I don't blame him for trying to bring itup now rather than tomorrow.

I find it easy to do. It's a massive part of my game and like it or not it's part of the game. It's not a glitch it's a product of lag, same as DG. It's seems some Jokers don't have a problem with it. You are effectively asking me to play with one hand tied behind my back. This is a competitive game, you want to ban skills? Anyway, I say if you don't want it, I won't use it, even if we decide it's allowed. I'm just hyped for the battle! See you tonight!

If lakers doesn't post here tomorrow, then by what little power is vested in me, I will accept your rule of no acj.

so to sum up, the rules are:

- no lavatossing
- no lavawalking
- no undeading
- no doubleshooting
- no area cakejumping (normal cakejumps ARE alowed!)
- no teleporting
- no giantglitching
(OMG this game needs a DLC...)

- starting map is GG, 2nd map is CC, 3rd map (if necessary) is decided with votes
- number of players: 10
- best of 3 games RTP
- beginning battle 7 pm EST, but connecting to game starts at 6.45 pm EST

But most of all: HAVE FUN!!!


After the battle lets have some cool giant slapfest

Thank you for laying out the rules and maps for the clan battle with the Snackers. I look forward to a challenging match.

Lets make sure to recap the rules at the beginning of the game, so members from both clans who may not have read the rules on either of the forums are aware.

-pamalam

I will go ahead and agree with the no acj. I still don't see why though. Anyways see you guys at the game!

Casino wrote:

I find it easy to do. It's a massive part of my game and like it or not it's part of the game. It's not a glitch it's a product of lag, same as DG. It's seems some Jokers don't have a problem with it. You are effectively asking me to play with one hand tied behind my back. This is a competitive game, you want to ban skills? Anyway, I say if you don't want it, I won't use it, even if we decide it's allowed. I'm just hyped for the battle! See you tonight!

It's not a product of lag.

I find it works better while hosting...

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